Trans communities have disproportionately been objects of study by cisgender professionals; barred from meaningful agency over studies of which they are the subject. In a conversation introduced by Aviva Silverman, celebrated transgender trailblazer Kate Bornstein and internationally celebrated author, activist, and public speaker Eli Erlick discuss their respective relationships to timelines, aging, and the ephemerality of institutional fixtures that exist for oppositional cultural movements. When is trans liberation a means of time travel?